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Saturday, November 24, 2012
49 years and counting ...
It seems that even after this long long time it would be appropo to repost a couple of things about that infamous day in history. There are still a few reads you can research yourself. But even if you do, they still lead to nothing but even more questions about what actually happened that day in Dallas .....
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from November 24, 2010
Today in History - November 24
Lee Harvey Oswald.
While the world was still reeling at the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, we saw the alleged perpetrator of the crime, caught and killed only two days later, and on national TV!
And these many years on we can only marvel at the speed with which his apprehension for the crimes happened. And the positive assertion that Oswald was undoubtedly the lone killer of Officer Tippit and Kennedy.
All these instant conclusions would be astounding even in todays era of nanosecond web communication. Yet over these years so many nagging doubts still evoke questions.
Oswald was supposed to have shot Kennedy from a 6th floor coign of vantage in the Texas Schoolbook Depository, with a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle. But first it was identified as a 7.65 Italian Mauser, by sherrifs and FBI Special Agents. Affidavits were signed. Then it became a 6.5 Carcano rifle. Why? Because the FBI discovered that Oswald HAD purchased a Carcano, but NOT a Mauser. And even other rifles are now mentioned. And it took a world class marksman from the Army to nearly duplicate the 3 shots in 4.5 second feat! Other trained US Marine snipers said it could not be done.
And
an almost perfect bullet 'appeared' on the stretcher bearing the
President's body. A bullet that went through TWO bodies. That looks as
if the Lone Ranger put it there!
Oswald was even identified by someone who SAW him up there from across the street! Is that believeable today?
Oswald was supposedly seen being questioned by Tippit shortly after leaving his job and taking to the streets. Witnesses said they saw him shoot Tippit. They even saw him REloading his handgun while fleeing! Does that sound like a frightened killer? Yet other witnesses said another car pulled up, a man got out and shot Tippit and then roared away! Someone else saw two men who were NOT Oswald. Witnesses even identified a different assailant as heavy set, wearing a long overcoat. Many witnesses claimed intimidations and threats about their testimonys. Several eye-witnesses died soon after.
The Warren Commission ignored most of it.
And what was Officer Tippit up to on the hour before he died? Why was he far out of his patrol area? Why did he suddenly rush to 10th Street and stop to make a phone call in a cafe but only listened and said nothing? Why did he seem panicked when he made the call? He left his car radio at a crucial time. Then he was seen cruising very slowly. Why was Tippit known in the area he died in? Some witnesses thought he lived nearby. But it was miles from his patrol area and his home?
How did anyone know Oswald's path of exit? Was it coincidence? Happenstance? Or enemy action? Officer Tippit was directed exactly where to go, minutes after the murder. Then radioed back when he was in position. Why was Tippit directed to 10th St? Was he? The Dallas police lieutenant who may have directed Tippit that day, Harry Dean Thomas, married his widow three years later.
The shells from the shooting were gathered by policeman, J.M. Poe, and he marked them with his initials, however the shell casings eventually entered into evidence had no such markings.
Oswald went to his rooming house first. Who were the two policemen who stopped in front, gave two horn honks and went away? Then he went to a movie theatre. Why did he go there instead of staying on a bus and getting far away? Was he under a prearranged instruction to go to that theatre? Part of a plan to have him where someone wanted him? Did someone give him a revolver there? Perhaps the very revolver just used to kill Tippit? Perhaps by the very person who DID kill Tippit? The revolver in his possession was fully loaded with no empty chambers. And he had no additional ammunition with him. So if Oswald shot Tippit four times, and REloaded, then he must have had only had four extra bullets with him? Seems too odd, doesn't it? And four cartridge cases were found lying on the ground near the scene of the murder. Did the killer open the chamber of his gun and manually ejected the cases? Instead of immediately fleeing the scene of the crime, did he deliberately stop and discarded four vital pieces of evidence that could have been used against him? The four cartridge cases were traced to Oswald's revolver, although they were never matched to the bullets.
Oswald was constant in his claim that he was a patsy. He was innocent. He never shot anybody. And more than one scholar who has gone through the whole case has said the Mexico and Soviet Union implications could have easily pointed to Oswald being a CIA spy.
Alas, all these years later we are still suspicious, yet nowhere near advanced in our factuals about how it happened. The circumstances seem just too complex. The evidence now too scattered. Diffused. Lost. Misinformation and disinformation. Indeed, but we have more questions than ever.
His actions seem to be a response to suddenly realizing he had been set up. Confusion, desperation, the compounding of events leading him to take a predetermined escape route as his only hope. A route designed by who?
Lee Harvey Oswald was never actually charged with killing the Presdient.
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and from September 27, 2011
This day in history - - - September 27
(1963 – 64) The Warren Commission. A group appointed by Pres. Lyndon B. Johnson to investigate the circumstances surrounding President John F. Kennedy's slaying and the shooting of his (alleged) assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald. It was chaired by Earl Warren and included two U.S. senators, two U.S. congressmen, and two former public officials.
After months of investigation, it reported that Kennedy was killed by Oswald's rifle shots from the Texas School Book Depository and that Oswald's murder by Jack Ruby two days later was not part of a conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy.
Its findings were later questioned in a number of books and articles and in a special congressional committee report in 1979, though no conclusive contradictory evidence was found.
One of those first books, Rush to Judgment, by lawyer Mark Lane, pointed out that the conclusions in the Summery, those few pages that most people and reporters read, had little to do with the volumes of actual evidence in the content.
Today a believer of this, 'Oswald alone', conclusion is rare. And because that summery seemed falsified, it berthed a lifetime of conspiracy theories about the President's death.
Even following the interesting side story of the trail of Officer Tippit on that day and you might join the legions of disbelievers.
The members of that Warren Commission were -
- Earl Warren - Chief Justice of the United States. Eisenhower offered Warren the post of solicitor general, with the promise of a seat on the Supreme Court. But before it was announced, Chief Justice Fred M. Vinson unexpectedly died in September 1953 and Eisenhower replaced him with Warren. As Chief Justice of the United States some said many of his decisions were 'inappropriate'.
- Hale Boggs - Died mysteriously in a plane crash while flying over remote Alaska in October, 1972 . Wreckage never found. In April 1971 he had made a speech on the floor of the House in which he strongly attacked J. Edgar Hoover and the whole of the FBI.
- Gerald Ford - Future President. Ford commented in his own report that the CIA destroyed or kept from investigators critical secrets connected to the assassination.
- John Sherman Cooper - In the general election in 1954 Cooper was defeated by Alben W. Barkley a Democrat who had been Vice President under Harry S. Truman but Barkley subsequently died, and Cooper was elected to fill his unexpired term in 1956.
- John J. McCloy - He was initially skeptical of the lone gunman theory, but a trip to Dallas with Allen Dulles, an old friend also serving on the Commission, in the spring of 1964 to visit the scene of the assassination convinced him of the case against Lee Harvey Oswald.
- Allen Welsh Dulles - Director of the CIA. It evolved under his directorship into a team of assassins. One member, Frank Sturgis, claimed: "this assassination group (Operation 40) would upon orders, naturally, assassinate either members of the military or the political parties of the foreign country that you were going to infiltrate, and if necessary some of your own members." (Sturgis was also one of the Watergate burglars) Dulles and his staff were forced to resign in September 1961 when President Kennedy reportedly said he wanted to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds."
The Warren report's lack of candor furthered antigovernment cynicism, which in turn stimulated conspiracy theorists who propounded any number of alternative scenarios, all mutually contradictory, and all going strong today.
Who can you trust?
.
In a new revelation by Jackie Kennedy she recently revealed her suspicions of LBJ. And we all know she married Ari Onassis simply because he was the one man in the world who could actually protect her from an 'unexpected' and mysterious death.
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.... back to today ....
And an even more recent revelation suggests that Jackie Kennedy/Onassis recorded several tapes before she died. And they are somewhere. Waiting to be revealed. It is further proposed by some researchers, that Oswald was a paid asset of the FBI.
Arlen Specter, (later a Senator) was assistant counsel to the Warren Commission (recommended by Gerald Ford) and came up with the single bullet theory, which was readily adopted because having Connally and Kennedy shot by two separate bullets in such a short time frame would indicate TWO assassins and a conspiracy! Convenient, huh? Why did Specter miss so many obvious followup questions to the witnesses?
More questions. In recent years, there have been suggestions that some secret sponsored shadow cell has plans for a coup d'etat of the American Government, even that 9/11 may have been the precursor.
And there are also those who also believe the coup was already accomplished on November 22, 1963!
But just investigating the one aspect of Officer Tippit is an interesting exercise and takes you well away from the 49 years of spin and cover up about JFK. Go ahead, try it. At the very least you'll have a fascinating read, way better than TV fiction. And you'll involve yourself in history.
start here - - -
Dallas Police Officer JD Tippit
Officer Tippit timeline
JD Tippit homepage
Officer Tippit's autopsy
James Garrison Playboy interview
Follow the fascinating timeline and perhaps you will come up with more questions too: like why did the Davis sisters believe he lived in the nearby apartment house? Who DID live there to cause Tippit to be there often? Why was he speeding around frantically in the minutes after JFK was shot? Was he supposed to intercept Oswald? Why was he on West 10th Street when he was thought to be miles away at the Dealey Plaza by the overpass? How many contradictions may already be within the transcripts of accounts, interviews and events? Is there one somewhere, just waiting for a new eye to find it? Is there one sentence somewhere that says, 'This cannot be, therefore that must be?'
They can't hide ALL the trails leading to truth. We finally learned the identity of deepthroat, anything can still happen.
And one thing about a coup d'etat, they don't all reveal themselves in a momentary flash through smoke and fire and violence ... they can emerge in stealth over many years.
(Thanks to people like William M. Drenas [Tippit Timeline], for never exhausting their efforts in the search for truth)
(my own interest in JFK goes way back to the sixties when James Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney announced his intention of laying charges in the assassination and he replied to a note I sent to him with several ideas, thanking me for my interest and communication.)
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from November 24, 2010
Today in History - November 24
Lee Harvey Oswald.
While the world was still reeling at the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, we saw the alleged perpetrator of the crime, caught and killed only two days later, and on national TV!
And these many years on we can only marvel at the speed with which his apprehension for the crimes happened. And the positive assertion that Oswald was undoubtedly the lone killer of Officer Tippit and Kennedy.
All these instant conclusions would be astounding even in todays era of nanosecond web communication. Yet over these years so many nagging doubts still evoke questions.
Oswald was supposed to have shot Kennedy from a 6th floor coign of vantage in the Texas Schoolbook Depository, with a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle. But first it was identified as a 7.65 Italian Mauser, by sherrifs and FBI Special Agents. Affidavits were signed. Then it became a 6.5 Carcano rifle. Why? Because the FBI discovered that Oswald HAD purchased a Carcano, but NOT a Mauser. And even other rifles are now mentioned. And it took a world class marksman from the Army to nearly duplicate the 3 shots in 4.5 second feat! Other trained US Marine snipers said it could not be done.
And
an almost perfect bullet 'appeared' on the stretcher bearing the
President's body. A bullet that went through TWO bodies. That looks as
if the Lone Ranger put it there!Oswald was even identified by someone who SAW him up there from across the street! Is that believeable today?
Oswald was supposedly seen being questioned by Tippit shortly after leaving his job and taking to the streets. Witnesses said they saw him shoot Tippit. They even saw him REloading his handgun while fleeing! Does that sound like a frightened killer? Yet other witnesses said another car pulled up, a man got out and shot Tippit and then roared away! Someone else saw two men who were NOT Oswald. Witnesses even identified a different assailant as heavy set, wearing a long overcoat. Many witnesses claimed intimidations and threats about their testimonys. Several eye-witnesses died soon after.
The Warren Commission ignored most of it.
And what was Officer Tippit up to on the hour before he died? Why was he far out of his patrol area? Why did he suddenly rush to 10th Street and stop to make a phone call in a cafe but only listened and said nothing? Why did he seem panicked when he made the call? He left his car radio at a crucial time. Then he was seen cruising very slowly. Why was Tippit known in the area he died in? Some witnesses thought he lived nearby. But it was miles from his patrol area and his home?
How did anyone know Oswald's path of exit? Was it coincidence? Happenstance? Or enemy action? Officer Tippit was directed exactly where to go, minutes after the murder. Then radioed back when he was in position. Why was Tippit directed to 10th St? Was he? The Dallas police lieutenant who may have directed Tippit that day, Harry Dean Thomas, married his widow three years later.
The shells from the shooting were gathered by policeman, J.M. Poe, and he marked them with his initials, however the shell casings eventually entered into evidence had no such markings.
Oswald went to his rooming house first. Who were the two policemen who stopped in front, gave two horn honks and went away? Then he went to a movie theatre. Why did he go there instead of staying on a bus and getting far away? Was he under a prearranged instruction to go to that theatre? Part of a plan to have him where someone wanted him? Did someone give him a revolver there? Perhaps the very revolver just used to kill Tippit? Perhaps by the very person who DID kill Tippit? The revolver in his possession was fully loaded with no empty chambers. And he had no additional ammunition with him. So if Oswald shot Tippit four times, and REloaded, then he must have had only had four extra bullets with him? Seems too odd, doesn't it? And four cartridge cases were found lying on the ground near the scene of the murder. Did the killer open the chamber of his gun and manually ejected the cases? Instead of immediately fleeing the scene of the crime, did he deliberately stop and discarded four vital pieces of evidence that could have been used against him? The four cartridge cases were traced to Oswald's revolver, although they were never matched to the bullets.
Oswald was constant in his claim that he was a patsy. He was innocent. He never shot anybody. And more than one scholar who has gone through the whole case has said the Mexico and Soviet Union implications could have easily pointed to Oswald being a CIA spy.
Alas, all these years later we are still suspicious, yet nowhere near advanced in our factuals about how it happened. The circumstances seem just too complex. The evidence now too scattered. Diffused. Lost. Misinformation and disinformation. Indeed, but we have more questions than ever.
His actions seem to be a response to suddenly realizing he had been set up. Confusion, desperation, the compounding of events leading him to take a predetermined escape route as his only hope. A route designed by who?
Lee Harvey Oswald was never actually charged with killing the Presdient.
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and from September 27, 2011
This day in history - - - September 27
(1963 – 64) The Warren Commission. A group appointed by Pres. Lyndon B. Johnson to investigate the circumstances surrounding President John F. Kennedy's slaying and the shooting of his (alleged) assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald. It was chaired by Earl Warren and included two U.S. senators, two U.S. congressmen, and two former public officials.
After months of investigation, it reported that Kennedy was killed by Oswald's rifle shots from the Texas School Book Depository and that Oswald's murder by Jack Ruby two days later was not part of a conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy.
Its findings were later questioned in a number of books and articles and in a special congressional committee report in 1979, though no conclusive contradictory evidence was found.
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| JD Tippit |
One of those first books, Rush to Judgment, by lawyer Mark Lane, pointed out that the conclusions in the Summery, those few pages that most people and reporters read, had little to do with the volumes of actual evidence in the content.
Today a believer of this, 'Oswald alone', conclusion is rare. And because that summery seemed falsified, it berthed a lifetime of conspiracy theories about the President's death.
Even following the interesting side story of the trail of Officer Tippit on that day and you might join the legions of disbelievers.
The members of that Warren Commission were -
- Earl Warren - Chief Justice of the United States. Eisenhower offered Warren the post of solicitor general, with the promise of a seat on the Supreme Court. But before it was announced, Chief Justice Fred M. Vinson unexpectedly died in September 1953 and Eisenhower replaced him with Warren. As Chief Justice of the United States some said many of his decisions were 'inappropriate'.
- Hale Boggs - Died mysteriously in a plane crash while flying over remote Alaska in October, 1972 . Wreckage never found. In April 1971 he had made a speech on the floor of the House in which he strongly attacked J. Edgar Hoover and the whole of the FBI.
- Gerald Ford - Future President. Ford commented in his own report that the CIA destroyed or kept from investigators critical secrets connected to the assassination.
- John Sherman Cooper - In the general election in 1954 Cooper was defeated by Alben W. Barkley a Democrat who had been Vice President under Harry S. Truman but Barkley subsequently died, and Cooper was elected to fill his unexpired term in 1956.
- John J. McCloy - He was initially skeptical of the lone gunman theory, but a trip to Dallas with Allen Dulles, an old friend also serving on the Commission, in the spring of 1964 to visit the scene of the assassination convinced him of the case against Lee Harvey Oswald.
- Allen Welsh Dulles - Director of the CIA. It evolved under his directorship into a team of assassins. One member, Frank Sturgis, claimed: "this assassination group (Operation 40) would upon orders, naturally, assassinate either members of the military or the political parties of the foreign country that you were going to infiltrate, and if necessary some of your own members." (Sturgis was also one of the Watergate burglars) Dulles and his staff were forced to resign in September 1961 when President Kennedy reportedly said he wanted to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds."
The Warren report's lack of candor furthered antigovernment cynicism, which in turn stimulated conspiracy theorists who propounded any number of alternative scenarios, all mutually contradictory, and all going strong today.
Who can you trust?
.
In a new revelation by Jackie Kennedy she recently revealed her suspicions of LBJ. And we all know she married Ari Onassis simply because he was the one man in the world who could actually protect her from an 'unexpected' and mysterious death.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
.... back to today ....
And an even more recent revelation suggests that Jackie Kennedy/Onassis recorded several tapes before she died. And they are somewhere. Waiting to be revealed. It is further proposed by some researchers, that Oswald was a paid asset of the FBI.
Arlen Specter, (later a Senator) was assistant counsel to the Warren Commission (recommended by Gerald Ford) and came up with the single bullet theory, which was readily adopted because having Connally and Kennedy shot by two separate bullets in such a short time frame would indicate TWO assassins and a conspiracy! Convenient, huh? Why did Specter miss so many obvious followup questions to the witnesses?
More questions. In recent years, there have been suggestions that some secret sponsored shadow cell has plans for a coup d'etat of the American Government, even that 9/11 may have been the precursor.
And there are also those who also believe the coup was already accomplished on November 22, 1963!
But just investigating the one aspect of Officer Tippit is an interesting exercise and takes you well away from the 49 years of spin and cover up about JFK. Go ahead, try it. At the very least you'll have a fascinating read, way better than TV fiction. And you'll involve yourself in history.
start here - - -
Dallas Police Officer JD Tippit
Officer Tippit timeline
JD Tippit homepage
Officer Tippit's autopsy
James Garrison Playboy interview
Follow the fascinating timeline and perhaps you will come up with more questions too: like why did the Davis sisters believe he lived in the nearby apartment house? Who DID live there to cause Tippit to be there often? Why was he speeding around frantically in the minutes after JFK was shot? Was he supposed to intercept Oswald? Why was he on West 10th Street when he was thought to be miles away at the Dealey Plaza by the overpass? How many contradictions may already be within the transcripts of accounts, interviews and events? Is there one somewhere, just waiting for a new eye to find it? Is there one sentence somewhere that says, 'This cannot be, therefore that must be?'
They can't hide ALL the trails leading to truth. We finally learned the identity of deepthroat, anything can still happen.
And one thing about a coup d'etat, they don't all reveal themselves in a momentary flash through smoke and fire and violence ... they can emerge in stealth over many years.
(Thanks to people like William M. Drenas [Tippit Timeline], for never exhausting their efforts in the search for truth)
(my own interest in JFK goes way back to the sixties when James Garrison, New Orleans District Attorney announced his intention of laying charges in the assassination and he replied to a note I sent to him with several ideas, thanking me for my interest and communication.)
Tuesday, September 27, 2011
This day in history - - - September 27
(1963 – 64) The Warren Commission. A group appointed by Pres. Lyndon B. Johnson to investigate the circumstances surrounding President John F. Kennedy's slaying and the shooting of his (alleged) assassin, Lee Harvey Oswald. It was chaired by Earl Warren and included two U.S. senators, two U.S. congressmen, and two former public officials.
After months of investigation, it reported that Kennedy was killed by Oswald's rifle shots from the Texas School Book Depository and that Oswald's murder by Jack Ruby two days later was not part of a conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy.
Its findings were later questioned in a number of books and articles and in a special congressional committee report in 1979, though no conclusive contradictory evidence was found.
One of those first books, Rush to Judgment, by lawyer Mark Lane, pointed out that the conclusions in the Summery, those few pages that most people and reporters read, had little to do with the volumes of actual evidence in the content.
Today a believer of this, 'Oswald alone', conclusion is rare. And because that summery seemed falsified, it berthed a lifetime of conspiracy theories about the President's death.
Even following the interesting side story of the trail of Officer Tippit on that day and you might join the legions of disbelievers.
The members of that Warren Commission were -
- Earl Warren - Chief Justice of the United States. Eisenhower offered Warren the post of solicitor general, with the promise of a seat on the Supreme Court. But before it was announced, Chief Justice Fred M. Vinson unexpectedly died in September 1953 and Eisenhower replaced him with Warren. As Chief Justice of the United States some said many of his decisions were 'inappropriate'.
- Hale Boggs - Died mysteriously in a plane crash while flying over remote Alaska in October, 1972 . Wreckage never found. In April 1971 he had made a speech on the floor of the House in which he strongly attacked J. Edgar Hoover and the whole of the FBI.
- Gerald Ford - Future President. Ford commented in his own report that the CIA destroyed or kept from investigators critical secrets connected to the assassination.
- John Sherman Cooper - In the general election in 1954 Cooper was defeated by Alben W. Barkley a Democrat who had been Vice President under Harry S. Truman but Barkley subsequently died, and Cooper was elected to fill his unexpired term in 1956.
- John J. McCloy - He was initially skeptical of the lone gunman theory, but a trip to Dallas with Allen Dulles, an old friend also serving on the Commission, in the spring of 1964 to visit the scene of the assassination convinced him of the case against Lee Harvey Oswald.
- Allen Welsh Dulles - Director of the CIA. It evolved under his directorship into a team of assassins. One member, Frank Sturgis, claimed: "this assassination group (Operation 40) would upon orders, naturally, assassinate either members of the military or the political parties of the foreign country that you were going to infiltrate, and if necessary some of your own members." (Sturgis was also one of the Watergate burglars) Dulles and his staff were forced to resign in September 1961 when President Kennedy reportedly said he wanted to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds."
The Warren report's lack of candor furthered antigovernment cynicism, which in turn stimulated conspiracy theorists who propounded any number of alternative scenarios, all mutually contradictory, and all going strong today.
Who can you trust?
.
In a new revelation by Jackie Kennedy she recently revealed her suspicions of LBJ. And we all know she married Onassis simply because he was the one man in the world who could actually protect her from an 'unexpected' death.
source mostly Wikipedia
start here - Officer Tippit timeline
.
After months of investigation, it reported that Kennedy was killed by Oswald's rifle shots from the Texas School Book Depository and that Oswald's murder by Jack Ruby two days later was not part of a conspiracy to assassinate Kennedy.
Its findings were later questioned in a number of books and articles and in a special congressional committee report in 1979, though no conclusive contradictory evidence was found.
One of those first books, Rush to Judgment, by lawyer Mark Lane, pointed out that the conclusions in the Summery, those few pages that most people and reporters read, had little to do with the volumes of actual evidence in the content.
Today a believer of this, 'Oswald alone', conclusion is rare. And because that summery seemed falsified, it berthed a lifetime of conspiracy theories about the President's death.
Even following the interesting side story of the trail of Officer Tippit on that day and you might join the legions of disbelievers.
The members of that Warren Commission were -
- Earl Warren - Chief Justice of the United States. Eisenhower offered Warren the post of solicitor general, with the promise of a seat on the Supreme Court. But before it was announced, Chief Justice Fred M. Vinson unexpectedly died in September 1953 and Eisenhower replaced him with Warren. As Chief Justice of the United States some said many of his decisions were 'inappropriate'.
- Hale Boggs - Died mysteriously in a plane crash while flying over remote Alaska in October, 1972 . Wreckage never found. In April 1971 he had made a speech on the floor of the House in which he strongly attacked J. Edgar Hoover and the whole of the FBI.
- Gerald Ford - Future President. Ford commented in his own report that the CIA destroyed or kept from investigators critical secrets connected to the assassination.
- John Sherman Cooper - In the general election in 1954 Cooper was defeated by Alben W. Barkley a Democrat who had been Vice President under Harry S. Truman but Barkley subsequently died, and Cooper was elected to fill his unexpired term in 1956.
- John J. McCloy - He was initially skeptical of the lone gunman theory, but a trip to Dallas with Allen Dulles, an old friend also serving on the Commission, in the spring of 1964 to visit the scene of the assassination convinced him of the case against Lee Harvey Oswald.
- Allen Welsh Dulles - Director of the CIA. It evolved under his directorship into a team of assassins. One member, Frank Sturgis, claimed: "this assassination group (Operation 40) would upon orders, naturally, assassinate either members of the military or the political parties of the foreign country that you were going to infiltrate, and if necessary some of your own members." (Sturgis was also one of the Watergate burglars) Dulles and his staff were forced to resign in September 1961 when President Kennedy reportedly said he wanted to "splinter the CIA into a thousand pieces and scatter it into the winds."
The Warren report's lack of candor furthered antigovernment cynicism, which in turn stimulated conspiracy theorists who propounded any number of alternative scenarios, all mutually contradictory, and all going strong today.
Who can you trust?
.
In a new revelation by Jackie Kennedy she recently revealed her suspicions of LBJ. And we all know she married Onassis simply because he was the one man in the world who could actually protect her from an 'unexpected' death.
source mostly Wikipedia
start here - Officer Tippit timeline
.
Sunday, November 7, 2010
Conspiracy theorists. Where from?
The argument that many people who believe a certain conspiracy idea start out thinking in paranoic terms is not so. Those arguments are often convoluted and stretched to fit their premise. Some twisted minds automatically believe anything against a government, or corporation, or political party because of some pain they have been inflicted with.
Yet others begin with a simple, seemingly innocent question. A seed of an idea that begins to grow and bloom with either suspicious answers or a telling silence.
Conspiracies are born when someone tries to hide or distort the truth amid a series of obvious lies or through so many omissions that the prevarication becomes evident. When the simple seeking of information becomes purposely clouded in disinformation the red flags go up.
To name just a few suspicions that fuel these kinds of ideas;
The JFK conspiracy was born from just too many incidents: like when a pristine undeformed bullet appeared on JFK's stretcher carrying his body. AND when witnesses to the murder of officer Tippet conflicted yet only those who said they saw Oswald were used. AND when Oswald was shot within one day. AND, when the powers that be had to enlist the best army sharpshooter to duplicate shots with a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle from the Schoolbook Depository. AND when the people who heard and saw actions from the 'grassy knoll' were ignored. AND when 10 eyewitnesses 'mysteriously' died in the 6 months immediately after. And when Jack Ruby suddenly died. AND when the Warren Commission ignored or did NOT include many pertinent facts in their summery report. And even years later the fire was stoked again when George HW Bush lied about his presence in Dallas that day until it was proven he was there. Etc etc.
Is there a valid reason that people would NOT start to believe something was afoul?
The 9-11 conspiracy has been born because simple questions and what should be obvious evidence is being withheld from the public knowledge.
Like of the 214 surveillance camera sequences that were confiscated near the Pentagon by the FBI on the day, we only get 4 FRAMES to 'show' it was an airliner. AND when NORAD and the US military in charge of protecting America from terrorism is totally useless in that they don't scramble masses of F15s. AND when the First Responders, firemen and police all swear there were explosions in the basements of WTC 1 and 2. AND when a steel structured high rise building falls down from fire for the first time in history. AND when airliners crash into the earth and the Pentagon but leave NO trace when every previous crash in history does leave tail and fusilage. AND when the steel is immediately shipped off to China before the NTSB can even do a single test of that steel. AND when President George W Bush is called to testify it is behind closed doors with an agreement that nothing will be recorded and he brings his 'handler', Dick Cheney with him.
Other conspiracies form from a history of stealth and manipulation, from the first denials of friendly fire incidents to `false flag` operations. Like when it is PROVEN that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was faked. And that Agent Orange WAS sprayed over innocent people. And when the CIA actually have the resources to start their own secret airline. And when the US Government admits to having 83,000 employees doing nothing but adding misinformation, counteracting negative publicity and conspiracy theories in newspapers, web forums etc, thereby spreading DISinformation.
Conspiracy theorists are not the paranoids who would shout about the voices they hear in their heads, even though those sufferers jump onto the theories right away, no, conspiracy theorists are those who only want a simple answer that they KNOW is easily given but withheld for whatever reason. They are the ones who, only through the process of elimination of the spin stories, see that the truth, whatever it may be, is being manipulated and fed to the people.
Accepting that manufactured truth is something certain people cannot do. In spite of the shadow of fear and threat cast with it. It defies their logic, reason and intelligence.
Call them what you will, but they are willing to face the ridicule in searching for the truth.
Kind of a brave thing to do, actually.
Keep asking questions.
Yet others begin with a simple, seemingly innocent question. A seed of an idea that begins to grow and bloom with either suspicious answers or a telling silence.
Conspiracies are born when someone tries to hide or distort the truth amid a series of obvious lies or through so many omissions that the prevarication becomes evident. When the simple seeking of information becomes purposely clouded in disinformation the red flags go up.
To name just a few suspicions that fuel these kinds of ideas;
The JFK conspiracy was born from just too many incidents: like when a pristine undeformed bullet appeared on JFK's stretcher carrying his body. AND when witnesses to the murder of officer Tippet conflicted yet only those who said they saw Oswald were used. AND when Oswald was shot within one day. AND, when the powers that be had to enlist the best army sharpshooter to duplicate shots with a Mannlicher-Carcano rifle from the Schoolbook Depository. AND when the people who heard and saw actions from the 'grassy knoll' were ignored. AND when 10 eyewitnesses 'mysteriously' died in the 6 months immediately after. And when Jack Ruby suddenly died. AND when the Warren Commission ignored or did NOT include many pertinent facts in their summery report. And even years later the fire was stoked again when George HW Bush lied about his presence in Dallas that day until it was proven he was there. Etc etc.
Is there a valid reason that people would NOT start to believe something was afoul?
The 9-11 conspiracy has been born because simple questions and what should be obvious evidence is being withheld from the public knowledge.
Like of the 214 surveillance camera sequences that were confiscated near the Pentagon by the FBI on the day, we only get 4 FRAMES to 'show' it was an airliner. AND when NORAD and the US military in charge of protecting America from terrorism is totally useless in that they don't scramble masses of F15s. AND when the First Responders, firemen and police all swear there were explosions in the basements of WTC 1 and 2. AND when a steel structured high rise building falls down from fire for the first time in history. AND when airliners crash into the earth and the Pentagon but leave NO trace when every previous crash in history does leave tail and fusilage. AND when the steel is immediately shipped off to China before the NTSB can even do a single test of that steel. AND when President George W Bush is called to testify it is behind closed doors with an agreement that nothing will be recorded and he brings his 'handler', Dick Cheney with him.
Other conspiracies form from a history of stealth and manipulation, from the first denials of friendly fire incidents to `false flag` operations. Like when it is PROVEN that the Gulf of Tonkin incident was faked. And that Agent Orange WAS sprayed over innocent people. And when the CIA actually have the resources to start their own secret airline. And when the US Government admits to having 83,000 employees doing nothing but adding misinformation, counteracting negative publicity and conspiracy theories in newspapers, web forums etc, thereby spreading DISinformation.
Conspiracy theorists are not the paranoids who would shout about the voices they hear in their heads, even though those sufferers jump onto the theories right away, no, conspiracy theorists are those who only want a simple answer that they KNOW is easily given but withheld for whatever reason. They are the ones who, only through the process of elimination of the spin stories, see that the truth, whatever it may be, is being manipulated and fed to the people.
Accepting that manufactured truth is something certain people cannot do. In spite of the shadow of fear and threat cast with it. It defies their logic, reason and intelligence.
Call them what you will, but they are willing to face the ridicule in searching for the truth.
Kind of a brave thing to do, actually.
Keep asking questions.
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