Shooting in Las Vegas; too many questions already. Motive seems to be elusive.
- One shooter or more? Police scanners reveal police were frantically talking about other areas for source of shots. Fourth floor. Center of the hotel? Other floors? The roof? Other hotels?
- 32nd floor windows broken in two separate rooms. Shots came from both rooms? Why would Stephen Paddock rent two rooms? Was someone else present in the other? Would he have ran between the two rooms during firing? Was the connecting door really locked between them ... from both sides?
- Why does the FBI say he registered one certain day, and hotel records show he was there 3 days earlier?
- Did he try to register in other hotels during other concerts? Did he, in fact, really book rooms personally in Chicago overlooking the Lollapalooza Festival in August? Or was that a set-up ala Lee Harvey Oswald?
- Why 23 rifles in the room? Some AK47s. The massive arsenal was believed to include an AR-15, four DDM4 rifles, three FN-15 rifles and Sig Saur rifles. Were they samples being offered for a potential sale? To terrorists?
- Was Stephen Paddock an illegal arms dealer?
- Were they going to be bought by ISIS?
- Was Paddock converted to Islam on one of his cruise trips to the Middle East? Was Marilou Danley with him?
- Who was the earlier visitor to Paddock's room? The buyer? Food was ordered for two, was that to enable a camera to be placed in the hallway on the food dolly?
- How did he install cameras into the hallway without being noticed? Did he have the equipment with him to use wireless camera transmission?
- How did Paddock get all that weaponry into his room without suspicion?
- Why did Police stand down when they were on the 30th floor and wait a long time before moving to 32? Waiting for SWAT? Who told them to wait?
- Different sounds from weapons firing? Different weapons?
- Why 1600 rounds of ammo in his car and 50 pounds of explosives? Who put it there and when?
- How did Paddock have a continual run of decades as a successful gambler?
- Was he actually laundering money? For who?
- Why haven't his two former wives and two other brothers been interviewed?
- Did the $100K wire transfer go to Japan or the Philippines? If to his girlfriend, Marilou Danley, what did she use it for?
- Who was the 'other woman' seen with Paddock before the event? Was she the one who told concert goers that they were going to die tonight?
- Who is the hotel security guard Jesus Campos who was supposedly shot in the leg and said, 'he got into it with the shooter.'? The FBI said 200 rounds came through the door! But the door is in pristine condition in photographs! Campos is not talking since and there are no medics who can attest that they attended him even virtually all military say even one .223 round would probably shatter his leg!
- Police shut down elevators quickly but did someone simply leave the 32nd floor suite and just enter a different room on another floor after killing Paddock?
- Why haven't the FBI triangulated the trajectory of the bullets from holes in the concert grounds and other incidental targets?
- Is there a conflict of beliefs between Sheriff Lombardo of the Clark County, Las Vegas Police and the overseeing FBI agent Aaron Rouse?
- Who really shot Stephen Paddock? And was he killed before the shooting actually started?
Why did all this happen? Too many questions and not enough answers.
Who is thinking 9-11?
Not me.
addenda 1 -
[ Someone??? keeps taking videos down from this blog - saying it is unavailable - I will repost when I access them again if I can find it, but meanwhile here is another one - how many simultaneous guns? - with the same info especially the audio! You needn't stay with it all, but pay particular attention to the sounds at the time marks mentioned below. YouTube now has many missing videos of this shooting, and this one has audio which differentiates the weapons during the firing! ]
Are the shots at 3:17 - a handgun shooting out the windows in one room? and then at 3:38 the other window in the adjoining suite? (If you hear one at 3:12, is it the two REAL shooters killing Stephen Paddock)
Listen carefully at 3:50 - an AK-47? Then at 4:40 we hear TWO separate rifles firing simultaneously! an AR-15 with a bump-stock firing AND an automatic? How does one guy do that?
Hmm?
addenda 2 - (Oct 10)
The FBI has not released any surveillance video of the Vegas shootings or hotel security video.
What's more, many witnesses who had their cell/smart phones taken by the FBI got them back today, (Oct 12) but they have been completely wiped clean of all info!
Are you starting to think false flag or what?
No, not me either.....?
Is the FBI blowing a smoke screen? Are they the ones we can't trust?
Why did Marilou Danley, Paddock's GF list the FBI as her place of employment?
Hmm (2)
addenda 3 - (Oct. 14)
Now Jesus Campos, the Mandalay Bay security guard who, it was first reported by the police, had stopped the shooting from the 32nd floor suite, 10 minutes after it started, and had been supposedly shot by Paddock, is missing! He disappeared after cancelling several TV appearances.
And it is now revealed that he was shot 6 minutes BEFORE the shooting! Further questions are being asked if Campos was ever actually a real security guard at Mandalay Bay, or indeed, even registered in the State of Nevada as all security needs to be by law!
Reporters at his home were told by someone that they were not allowed to talk about it! Was Campos part of the scheme and up there on floor 32 as a lookout and to ensure that the shooters escaped before police or SWAT got up there?
Is Campos about to be 'suicided'?
Just still wondering.
Hmm (3)
addenda 4 - Oct 15
An eye witness who was at the Route 91 Harvest Festival and was convinced there were multiple shooters has been found dead in her bed at home. Kymberley Sochumel survived the shooting unhurt, went home and posted her report on facebook. She was found by her grandmother in the morning. Her death has been suggested to be caused by a brain aneurysm. She was 28. Her post was going viral until it was taken down.
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| nervous Sheriff - evil eye FBI Rouse |
Who wrote the words for Lombardo and why is he under such scrutiny? Hmm (4)
7/14/2020addition some folks have good audio of this and have said you can here Rouse whispering to Lombarbo - 'Don't go there' - at one point.
addenda 5 - (Oct 16)
And now who are these guys at the Tropicana? Cops? They don't act like cops, don't even act like they are trained? FBI? Private security? What are they up to? Why are they carrying a stretcher? Can they point a machine gun at patrons with impunity? Who are the last two guys?
Watch the Outer Light video and see what you think? > real SWAT team? or not?
[ Someone??? keeps removing this video from this blog - you might still see be able to click my link and see it here or go to YouTube direct and seach for - SWAT Team enters Tropicana after Las Vegas Strip shooting -
watch it then come back decide if that is a real SWAT team or something else? - ]
This is truly a WTF! moment! Notice how nonchalant the casino people are? Body language. Totally NOT believing they were in any danger. Like they KNEW this was going to happen. No one moves away from the main group. Were they taking that stretcher somewhere to remove a body that should not have been there? Also suspect that some of those gangster looking guys with their hands up were part of this action to make the 'parade' seem real???
On the night of the event, there were many police calls of other shooters in Caesar's, Bellagio, NY NY and several of an active shooter at Tropicana. Were they real or planted confusions to scatter the first responders?
Hmm (5)
addenda 6 - (Oct 17)
Now the parking valet, Chad Nishimura, after saying Paddock only had regular bags when he arrived and that a car was positioned at the hotel just before the shootings, has also disappeared. The official narrative says he has not disappeared but no one knows where he is.
Paddock had been allowed as a heavy gambler,?? (someone saying this, not me) to have access to a service elevator. Why would a hotel do this? Was it to accommodate heavy packages taken to his room? Who did it? Does that elevator need a key or code to operate? Was it to allow a secret escape when police would be covering all the regular elevators?
Oddly, when referring to CCTV or requests of any video, Mandalay Bay staff say “Video of the incident area was not available due to camera/equipment malfunction”.
[Some people are still wondering what happened to the over 200 videos the FBI confiscated from surveillance cameras the morning of 9/11 at the Pentagon. so it is easy to believe videos disappear] Or GET disappeared in this case too!
- Paddock complained about loud music on floor 31, below his own suite, the night before. He had to call twice before security had it shut down. Why would Paddock have complained twice about the music? Was it a test to see how soon a phone complaint was acted upon? First time XX minutes? Second call X minutes? Important to know how much time the shooters had until they needed to escape into that stairwell to go up one floor into another suite?
Hmm (6)
addenda 7 - (Oct 29)Two witnesses who survived the shooting have been killed in a car crash near their Riverside California home. Their vehicle was immediately engulfed in flames, Dennis Carver, 52, and wife Lorraine, 53, died together less than half a mile from their home after crashing into a metal gate.
According to the Riverside County Fire Department, their vehicle crashed just outside their community at 10:50 p.m. on the 20000 block of Avenida De Arboles. It took firefighters nearly an hour to completely put out the fire, the department said in a statement. No comment on why the fire was so intense. WTF?
No report on what kind of car they were driving. The road evidently turned in one direction but their car veered the opposite. Modern cars can be hacked and completely taken over by remote persons.
[Some might recall the crash of journalist Michael Hastings' Mercedes that was suspected to have been electronically hacked in an engineered crash because of his political investigations into military corruption at the top.]
Danny Contreras, another eyewitness present at the concert who identified more than one shooter has been found dead in a vacant home of multiple gun shots.
Nov30
Yet another witness has died in a car accident. No one knows where any other witnesses are, or employees, or cops who were there. Total shut down. Nothing to see here folks, move on ....?
addenda 8 - (Dec 6)
Tucker Carlson in Vegas asking questions which only birthed more questions. Watch this - - -
Hmm (7)
Tucker Carlson in Las Vegas - explosive -
How did the second adjoining door get locked if Paddock killed himself? The SWAT said they had to breach both doors. Why would a policeman discharge his gun if the window shooter (Paddock?) was already dead? Why was there TWO shooting positions? Why did a Mandalay Bay executive sign the special permit papers for a concert across the street? WHERE was the LV SWAT team on the night? Why were they held back on the 30th floor instead of doing what they are trained for; going into immediate action. Was it to allow the real shooters to simply exit room 32135 into the stairwell where they just went to rooms on the floor below or above to sit out the night?
It never ends but you can now follow by the stink.
addenda 9 - (Jan 15)
It has been revealed that Paddock was an arms dealer, exactly one of my first suspicions, [my theory that he THOUGHT he was going to do an arms deal and that's why he was induced to bring so many weapons into his suite, but he was duped by the real plot and the men he met were the shooters who simply killed him first as part of their plan to kill many others from the vantage point of his suite. By the time the shooters were in action, Paddock may have been already dead.] There is still no accepted motive for the shootings. There are newly revealed emails that prove he was selling weapons, even referring to an AR15, a US military weapon, a Kalashnikov and 17 or more other rifles including with bump-stocks, making them semi automatic. At least two on tripods. Hmm? He also had a huge cache of military Grade .223 caliber ammunition. Seems like no one but the police still believe Paddock was the shooter.
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| so many weapons |
Paddock's girlfriend, Marilou Danley deleted her facebook account; The first calls about the shooting rolled in at 10:08 p.m., according to police. At 2:46 a.m., her account was deleted entirely. But it wasn't until nearly an hour after that — 3:30 a.m. — that police released Paddock's name to the public. The question is what did she know about Paddock really?
More to investigate: Why was the SWAT team held on the 30th floor when the shooting happened from the 32nd floor? (and then they didn't turn out to be a SWAT team at all) Wouldn't you want them closer, like right below? Was that because someone KNEW the shooters were going to take that stairwell so close to rooms to the 31st floor (or 33rd) to their own rooms? We need to know who exactly was registered in those 31st floor and 33rd floor rooms. People need to see the whole guest list! What persons checked out right after the event?
addenda 10 - (Jan19)
Yes, it is never gonna end, each day more questions arise and each day feeble answers and disinformation appears. Now they are blaming the shooting on ISIS, and then the FBI says Paddock had child pornography on his computer, after first saying his computer had NO Hard Drive! how does that work?
Doesn't this sound like a continuing coverup to you? Can we trust the FBI?
Hmm (8)
Study the floor plan on floor 32 - suite 135 -
Scenario - You are an arms dealer, there to make a deal on weapons. You bring them in over a period of days to your suite via a service elevator. But has Paddock been duped? The 'buyers' need to see all of what you are offering including ammo. You'll know the weaponry is very varied. You order food to seem normal. Two men visit to view the products, pretending they are the buyers, satisfied that they have all they need, they simply kill Paddock with a handgun, and set up to shoot people at the concert below. Set two rifles on pods, shoot out the windows and go on with the serious shooting. Who knows who they really are?
Having killed many, they need to escape, but not run for it, only need to hide for a while.
Look where the stairwell is to that apartment suite entrance, (my orange circle) only steps away. They can exit to the stairwell, and go down to floor 31 easily, or up to floor 33 easily. Probably in less than a minute!
Once secreted, perhaps in separate rooms, they need only to act like tourists until they can leave, saw nothing heard nothing, taking no weapons or evidence with them. They tricked Paddock into providing exactly what was needed?
The blame can now be dispersed to anywhere you want it.
addenda 11 (Feb12)
Now it seems that the autopsy on Paddock, concludes that he had anti anxiety medication in his system. This does not seem odd to me if you follow my premise that he was going to meet men to sell arms to, especially that he had so many 'sample' weapons in the suite. You might want to be calm and cool when dealing with international terrorists or hard core criminals buying weapons of mass destruction.
What IS very odd, is that the autopsy says Paddock's time of death was at 1200 hours on Oct 2, 2017 the day AFTER the shooting, 14 hours later! And since it was released, it has disappeared again. So how could that be?
Go back and look at the Tropicana Strange Video above at about 10:00. What is that stretcher for? Who are those guys? Especially the last two? Where are they sneaking off to?
This is not going away.
Hmm (9)
addenda 12 (Mar 8)
On and on it goes. Why are we not getting any forensic information? Now it is being said that Paddock had TWO separate wounds in his head, like he killed himself twice. (sounds like he was suicided to me) Apparently some people were killed with 9 mm bullets, nothing like would come from those AR 15 and AK47 rifles. It is becoming obvious that a complete coverup is taking place with this one and the cry from the hinterlands is that it was all orchestrated by the so called Deep State to enable gun control throughout America. And there is still no video of Paddock around or in his hotel.
Hmm (10)
addenda 13 (Mar30)
Some recently released pics -
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| L to R - escape to stairwell door - Rm 135 - Rm 134. Notice door light on right door is broken and hanging by its wire. |
The
main door has been breached but we can't see any bullet holes in it or
the standing door as evidence of a shoot out with SWAT?Are there other pics with the doors full of holes???
Also in this pic, you see Paddock's room 135 straight ahead, the adjoining room 134 behind the food trolley on the right, and importantly, the door to that escape stairwell on the left. (notice the plates - dinner for two. Camera under plate with wire leading into room 134 NOT 135.)
Paddock bringing in more large suitcases, full of weaponry? If he was planning on a simple shooting, why did he bring so many? Unless they were to show as sample wares, like a secret gun dealer might have to show buyers?
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| Paddock tucked his leg under after suicide? |
It would be standard procedure for an illegal gun dealer to always wear gloves so as never to leave prints on a weapon destined for criminal activity? Why are the guns scattered in such a mess? The weapon on the pod is aiming at a CHAIR and yet the shell casings are positioned in such a way as to suggest they ejected right there!
The FBI probably knows but we don't; like how many of those rifles were actually loaded? Which ones were actually used, why would Paddock have used one and then chosen another?
How does a guy kill himself or even be shot by others and then fall down with his leg UNDER the tripod of the rifle?
Why has there been no evidence of anyone analyzing the trajectory of the shots? Simple TV detective work, find holes in wood, cars, people and stick a thin dowel in that hole to see exactly where the shots came from. What if there proved to be two different directions of the shots?
It never ends, does it? And instead of resolving itself through transparency, it only becomes more complex, yet intriguing. Why? Because of cover-up?
Hmm (11)
Video - Police body cam video in moments after breach of room.
Just when the Main Stream Media (MSM) did what they were told and obediently forgot the mass shootings in Las Vegas, and the FBI, DHS and others were hoping it was over and their coverup was yet once again successful and they thought the public was no longer interested and virtually NONE of the important questions were answered, Here We Go Again;
MGM Resorts International claimed in a new lawsuit that it has no liability in any of the injuries or deaths in the October 1, 2017 mass shooting in Las Vegas.
The company, which owns Mandalay Bay and the Route 91 Harvest festival venue, argued that its security vendor took all necessary precautions, approved by the Department of Homeland Security, for “protecting against and responding to acts of mass injury and destruction,” according to the suit acquired by the Las Vegas Review-Journal.
The company is suing more than 1000 VICTIMS of the attack! Whaaaa?
The media usually jumps on things like this, but silence is the new norm in American media. WTF again?
“I’ve never seen a more outrageous thing, where they sue the victims in an effort to find a judge they like,” attorney Robert Eglet, who represents some of the victims, told the Review-Journal, accusing MGM of 'judge-shopping' in federal court, rather than state court where he believes any lawsuits should be filed.
Any investigations into the shootings seem to be fading into oblivion with the many other violent actions of whomever is doing it _ _ _ _ _ ? (insert your own perpetrator)
Although some are still working on what info is available, one analyst has equipment to visually see the audio profile of the shots and has proved without doubt that semi-automatic weapons were shooting from two separate locations. (Taxi with dash-cam in driveway of Mandalay Bay; YouTube)
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| on a building near the venue |
Is the Devil sign always there?
Can you even TRY to believe the narrative assigned to you?
Hmm (12)
(and some prominent players are irate in thinking that Trump doesn't trust the FBI?. Do you?)
addenda 15 (Aug 06) 2018
I know most people don't even read this far. Not because they are not interested, but because many don't want to face the truth of today's society. Or they are afraid the FBI is watching them because they believe this to be an anti-something website that would be under surveillance by the secret police. lol. But if you are with me this far, you might begin to agree about a massive coverup. I have not changed any earlier posts in what I initially believed to match or prove anything with later info, but what I thought at the beginning of the tragedy, and it still holds right now, even though much new info has been added. But you can see why there are so many suspicions right away.
A police report from Vegas comments that they now (finally) believe there was more than one shooter.
And there are new videos just released of police actions on the day. One of them shows police body cam footage, which generally shows the walls and ceiling view, little of what is important, and even a little bit of view showing them going into an STAIRWELL door while the description says they are breaching Paddocks suite! And another of FBI and Security in a stairwell, waiting to head toward the shooter(s) ALL are looking down, even pointing guns down the stairwell as if someone is coming UPWARD to them. Then they go into the carpeted room hallway. Creeping along expecting something, but in no way in a hurry. And they are not SWAT, but police and some plainclothes. Some even say this is staged! We hear audio that tells us they are on the 31st floor! Saying the shooting is from the 30th floor below!
And now there are rumors about the Sheriff Joe Lombardy's actions and integrity. (DISinformation?)
Just more Hmms. (13)
addenda 16 (January 29) 2019
The FBI's latest report, but is it over for everyone else? las-vegas-shooting-investigation-no motive?
Really? Notice that Aaron Rouse is reporting this.
If anyone saw the press video on the first days, where the Sheriff is talking, and Rouse stares at him the whole time, and if that isn't the evil eye I don't know what is. It is like Rouse has his finger on a button that will cause disaster to Lombardi if he has any variation from the prescribed speech. Lombardi is sweating blood.
Check out the pic of the two of them above.
Division-Director-Aaron-Rouse-what-gives?
It may be over for the FBI, but not for the millions who saw it all on social media, much of it before parts were removed.
It will go on because the conclusion shows no sign of investigative
imagination or intelligence. And nothing so far points to ISIS, or any
other international terrorist organization being involved.
Hard not to despair when some interested people believe the FBI are the new world Mafia.
Addenda 17 (July 21) 2019
So here we are, almost two years later and no one seems any more
cognizant of what happened than before, including major news media. What
seems more agreed in MSM, alternate media and social media, is that
somehow, for some reason there has been a massive cover-up of the true
event. The police have now closed the case without a motive for the
crime.
So many things have come to light that we need at least to acknowledge.
It seems that Stephan Paddock, brought as many as 21 hard bags up to his
room in a short period of time, most filled with lethal weapons. As
well as computer cases and smaller items. Each time they seemed way too
heavy for being clothing etc. Mostly they went up on the service
elevator on a dolly.
During the week he was there at the Las Vegas hotel and had the two
rooms rented, he also drove forth and back to his home in Mesquite, a
short distance away, several times, and some of those times he stopped
at the Ogden Hotel between home and Vegas, where he had also rented
rooms for that week! What was he doing there? And he seemed to bring
additional heavy bags, (more like containers) to the Mandalay Bay each
time. Who was he meeting there? For what purpose? Was that the transfer
point for most of his arsenal of weapons? Was someone bringing all that
military hardware to him at the Ogden to make the transfers undetected?
Why was there no focus on who else appeared there or had access to his
rooms. And why even have the rooms unless it was all part of the plot to
remain undetected. Doesn't that seem like illegal arms sales to you?
And after the controversial shooting? of Jesus Campos, where he was
shot? in the leg, and somehow went immediately into hiding. And one of
the most important witnesses to the biggest killings in the history of
the USA was allowed to just go off to Mexico? Then when he did come into
view again, and the whole of American media was waiting to ask
questions, he appeared on the Ellen DeGeneres show, supervised by a
shepherd from the Mandalay Bay people! Ellen Degeneres! Incredible. All
the while Fox news was prevented from filming in and around the venue
and crime scene.
And most of the law enforcement and ex-policemen interviewed all were
asking the same question? Where was the 40 member Las Vegas SWAT team
while all this firepower was being used? Many were trying to find the
non-existent Control Source for the investigation!
Well, only the so called conspiracy nuts are still at it. And will be
undeterred as they put their speculations to each other. And the motive
is still undetermined. But to me it seems like the whole episode was a
demonstration of what could be done and how to get away with it. And
leads many into believing what can be accomplished with the Deep State's
secretive help and co-operation.
[No relation to Mandalay Bay, but while the government was GOING to
announce what was in those retained files about the JFK assassination
this last spring, the CIA objected and the secrecy of those files are
now to remain locked for another 25 YEARS, it will be 80 years now, and
recent polls show that that as high was 81 percent of the American
public believe the government of the USA has a huge hand in it.]
Addenda 18 (July 14) 2020.
So we have seen things LIKE this before. When certain powerful people
want to get rid of a serious threat to their plans, they simply take out
that person or persons. Suicides. Car accidents. Falls from buildings.
etc. Anyone in the way are deemed as 'collateral damage'. Sometimes it
is a whole plane crash that killed the one they want silenced, and other
passengers die innocently.
Believe it, this has happened many times. So an investigator who does
believe this, would be asking about the victims of the shooting and who
was among them that might be targeted? Yes I KNOW you couldn't count on
the rifle shootings from far off to take out your intended, BUT, at
least ONE of the dead was killed with a 9 mm handgun and that had to be
at closer range! So who exactly was that person? And who could shoot
from within the concert event without suspicion?
And with present knowledge, we see an emerging tactic of finding child
porn on a computer when someone wants you to be disgusted and not pursue
the story. How easy it is to place info onto the target computer with a
flash-drive? Was Paddock really a successful gambler or a money
launderer who would be manipulated into the perfect position to serve a
sinister purpose?
So what will happen now after the largest mass killing in American
history begins to fade into oblivion? Likely nothing, and the sad
conclusion that someone, somehow, got away with it .... again.
Maybe this should have been titled, Here We Go On and ON?
Sorry, but you have to stay tuned.
Addenda 19 - (May 23) 2022
[Although Mz Robinson had many more assets to draw from than I did, and I may be wrong on certain aspects, I am right to start this thread from an obvious suspicion that something terrible is wrong with the whole shooting and cover-up of what happened comes from somewhere in the shadows of 'deep state'.. Somebody knows somewhere - never give up and walk away! Something will change.]
New!
Completed in January 2022. Some reporters refuse to give up.
If you have followed the progression of this incident so far, and there are still some that are doing so, you will have seen many of my rationales have merit. And who can conclude anything, but that the FBI are the ones covering up something that went on here. Clearly an important event which may simply be trying again to get the people so fed up with guns that they agree to the Feds taking away every gun in the USA by promising peace. However all indications to date is that thousands believe in the theory that if the people lose their Second Amendment, and have no guns to protect themselves, they will face an opponent way more dangerous than terrorists from afar; their own government within. Slavery. The reaction has backfired and more guns are sold after these mass killings instead of fewer. Just too many questions remain after each killings, to think that one crazy person was responsible. The bent is to find out what is really going on. The Las Vegas, Mandalay Bay, Route 91 action only raises more questions.
Comprehensive video by investigator Mindy Robinson - the best yet - is long but covers it all. If you want to know more you must watch it, and see if your conclusions meet hers. If you ignore info like this, good luck to you, too bad you cannot face life.
Click this link -
https://visionlaunch.com/route-91-uncovering-the-cover-up-of-the-vegas-mass-shooting/
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